Posted on Wednesday, 4th August 2010 by
Do any of us really think that ANYTHING we do will make any difference whatsoever, if the Glazer family do not want to sell the club ?
The Red Knight’s have (supposedly) tabled £1bn and have been rebuffed (& to be honest, looking at the debts and the PIK’s and the Bond issue – that figure is well wide of the mark)
To give the Glazers the incentive to walk away, I’d say the offer would have to be “£1bn and we’ll take on your debts” that equates to only just above the clubs market value - and when you consider that the Glazers can take out £140m per year between now and when the bond matures (7 years = £0.98bn) even that wouldn’t be that attractive to them.
I can honestly say that I can’t see any light at the end on the tunnel, No mater how many of us boycott, march and wave the G&G, the Glazer family will not care, they have already been photographed laughing at the LUHG banners in the Stretty & they are the kind of hard nosed business men who don’t respond to protests.
I won’t stop & I know a lot of other United fans won’t but it’s a fact that a week on Monday there will be clueless morons wearing shiny new AON branded shirts & a G&G scarf, the ground will still be 95% full & all those time-served Reds who have thrown there Season Tickets back in the face of the Americans, will have been replaced by ‘1 game a season’ day-trippers, who have paid £99 for a £42 tickets, a Megastore voucher and fish ‘n chips !
If the likes of Keith Harris – with his financial clout and wealthy friends are waving the white flag and looking elsewhere, what can WE realistically do ?
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August 4th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
There’s no need for name calling, you have issues with the owners not the fans, whatever their motivation may be. I am not condoning people buying the ST that are given up but don’t expect people to understand where you are coming from when you cannot understand their motivations. Yes, I know it is short sighted and will help the Glazers but hey, I have never been to OT and if i was in UK for a year and i had a chance to see United at home, i would jump at it!
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August 4th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I think the piece is very interesting as it highlights something I was discussing on Twitter the other day.
The hatred for the Glazers can actually be seen to be dividing fans. Fino has a point that it is pointless waving a green and gold scarf but buying the new kit.
But saying that I don’t judge, I thik the whole dynamics of the situation makes for interesting viewing and thats why I chose to post this piece.
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August 4th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
And do you expect those same “morons” and “day-trippers” to come and read your blog too?
Talk about being clueless…
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August 4th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Of course there’s light at the end of the tunnel.
If 10 years ago someone told you that there would be 4,000 season tickets on general sale, you would have thought we must be playing in Division 3. Tickets at Old Trafford used to be like gold dust, now, the Glazers are really struggling to shift them.
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August 4th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
elvido,
I’m sorry but if you buy a New United shirt emblazoned with AON – you are saying:
“I’m for the the Glazers”
If you then top it off with a Green & Gold scarf a visual protest by design that says:
“I’m against the Glazers”
Then you are a moron of the highest order.
I’m not taking exception with my fellow Reds, but if you’re ‘that’ clueless that you go to the trouble of buying a visual symbol of protest only to contradict yourself – you’re not the sharpest tool in the shed !
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August 4th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
arijc,
I’m not saying that there is anything wrong with being a ‘Day tripper’ but it is a fact that a United game is now on a lot of kids wish-lists at birthdays & christmas.
The £99 (or sometimes £89 or £149 depending on what United decide to charge) package guarantee a ticket and makes it a lot easier for said parent to fulfil their childs wish, It’s just a fact of life when you are as successful on the pitch as United have been over the past 20 or so years A trip to the Theatre of dreams will be up there with a trip to Alton Towers.
And I would love morons to read my blog – I cater to the thick !
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August 4th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Please dont stop the Green & Gold campaign – we must show our displeasure of the Glazers and not be divided.People can choose to buy ST or the new kit but we have to understand that to stop now would be giving up.This may well end up a bit of a marathon,but protest we must.
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August 4th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Scott,
That would’ve been because the grounds capacity had just been in increased to 61,000 due to demand.
Now it’s 76,000 !
When north stand was being re-built tickets were so hard to get hold of I was known to part with nearly a weeks wage to get in.
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August 4th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I never said anything about buying shirts or scarfs, did I? Don’t try to be condescending! I was talking about your comment about day trippers going to OT. I have not bought any merchandise since the Glazer take over and am completely against the greedy bastards! If I was in the UK, I would definitely be a part of any Anti-Glazer stand. If you anything intelligent to add apart from calling people morons…..
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August 4th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
99.9% of reds would agree with my statement –
The people wearing G&G scarves, coming out of the Megastore with bulging carrier bags full the very merchandise that fuels the Glazers fire – ARE F**KING MORONS !!!
If you don’t agree – then that’s your right, everyone has the right to an opinion. I know yours & you know mine, end of !
Oh ! & not being in the UK doesn’t stop you from being part of the LUHG campaign – United are global & so is the struggle !
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August 4th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
@fino, i read a hell of a lot of blog posts and this was a poor effort, really poor article!
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August 4th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
…..my brother did not renew his season ticket when the glazer takeover went through, and refused to sell the ticket onto another family member (our cousin)…now he watches fc united every other week….
if you want to start talking about day trippers and loyalty then maybe we should have all done that eh?!?!
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August 4th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
“united are global and so is the struggle”…the these global daytrippers certainly constitute something to our club no?!? awful piece of journalism
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August 4th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
There’s a light at the end of the tunnel. Time for all us who still cares about OUR football club to grow some balls. Then those fucking bastards will fuck off.
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August 4th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Oh c’mon guys, don’t get so easily offended. I see Fino’s point, that being said it’s also stupid to think that only attendees to OT and those who purchase merchandise are filling the Glazer’s pockets. Really, even watching a game enhances their wealth (look up their TV and advertising revenues), so virtually every fan is placed in a “damned if you do and damned if you don’t” scenario. The only way one could really protest the ownership is to firmly boycott the club and that frankly doesn’t interest me.
I live on the other side of the Alantic and when I had a chance to see United in Toronto last month I sure as hell didn’t turn down a rare opportunity. Even if I distrust the Glazers, I don’t think boycotting the club will do it and ultimately the players any good.
I may be virtually alone in this, but I’ll still give Fergie the benefit of the doubt that he’s telling some truth about the Glazers. Not that I’m firmly in the Glazers camp, but I need more proof than a recent lack of major signings to prove the club is heading towards ruin.
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August 5th, 2010 at 5:19 am
Hey Fino you tit, obviously you cannot understand simple English. I am not talking about buying merchandise here….. Oh sod it, you will probably come back with another word preceding morons. And what you are airing is not an opinion when you are talking out of your ass!
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August 5th, 2010 at 9:25 am
I think Fino is well entitled to his opinion and shouldn’t be chastised for it. The same way if I posted a piece from someone who felt the opposite I wouldn’t like to see them getting stick if they could provide a good reason.
Fino has a very good point in terms of wear a G&G scarf then buying merchandise it’s just that people don’t like hearing what is essentially the truth. Again I will say I am nobody to judge as my opinion is no more valid than the next United fan.
Also in closing I would just like to say don’t insult his writing because you don’t agree with the content, he was brave enough to let me put this up and stand in the firing line for what he knew was a potentially unpopular stance. Something not a lot of people would.
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August 5th, 2010 at 11:46 am
@Chudi, it is not the stance inasmuch as the representation of it that is the issue. If he had actually read what i said, i was talking about the season tickets only and he was talking about merchandise! Either ways, mountains, molehills and all that…
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August 5th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
It was awful to see lads who had both the new jersey and a green and gold scarf on last night. How clueless are these people? Embarassing…
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August 5th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
@elvido
“There’s no need for name calling”
And that you call me a ‘tit’ – that sir, rocked me to my very core.
….& yes !! Even when I’m “talking out of ass” it’s still my opinion & I’m still entitled to it !
PS :- I don’t even own a talking Ass, if I did I’d be a billionaire and I’d buy United myself !!!!
@johnboy
Sorry.
I must apologise for my lack journalistic prowess, but I wrote it on my iPhone whilst having a shit !
If you re-read what I said about the ’1 game a season’ brigade, I wasn’t actually critising them- in fact I don’t blame them.
I’ve been to Barca a few times whilst on trips – I’ve seen the Lakers,the Nicks & the Yankees. My point was that even boycotting the Season ticket isn’t damaging if United can fill the seat – sometimes making even more money, my point was more about futility than anything else.
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August 5th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
I called you a tit after you called me a moron. In case you are bad with chronology, scroll up. Don’t try to be a smart ass. I made a clean argument the first time around, then you decided to call me a moron for my opinions which led to me calling you a tit, rightfully.
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August 5th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
@fino……take a bit of care and time with your pieces please…
i dont want ‘the busby way’ to be clogged up with shite articles, otherwise i will not read chudi et al on here…
keep it classy guys, theres a thousand and one wanky man utd blogs out there on the blogosphere, this blog is usually decent…please keep it that way. intelligent pieces pleaseotherwise it is a waste of my time.
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August 6th, 2010 at 10:28 pm
@elvido
At no point did I call you a moron, you’ve misread what I’ve said.
@johnboy
I didn’t post this blog on here ! Somebody else did, and I’ve already said – I was trying out Tumblr for first time & wrote it on the pot !
Oh, and when you’re trying to patronise someone, about taking more care – don’t make the mistake of not adding spaces ! Pleaseotherwise isn’t a word as far as I’m aware.
On a final note- I don’t (as a rule) post on sites like this, for one very simple reason – if you air an opinion, some MORON will tell you that you’re not entitled to it & then air theirs as gospel.
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August 6th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
johnboy Says:
August 4th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
“united are global and so is the struggle”…the these global daytrippers certainly constitute something to our club no?!? awful piece of journalism.
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Hang on …. Constitute ?
Daytripper certainly “Set of rules” something to our club no ?
Fantastic use of the English language – do take more care johnboy !
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August 7th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
@fino…i wrote CONSTITUTE not CONSTITUTION…
CONSTITUTE as in ‘a part of the whole’ as opposed to CONSTITUTION – a ‘body of principles/set of rules’. i think you’ll find the sentence i wrote makes perfect sense.
re ‘Pleaseotherwise’, i think that the majority would agree that ‘Pleaseotherwise’ is a brilliant word and should be nominated for inclusion into the English language.
Next time you are on the pot instead of writing drivel, purchase one of those Oxford English Dictionaries and have a good old read, failing that you could probably steal one from your sixth form college ?!
CRETIN – look it up Fino, it’ll be a good read!
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August 22nd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
johnboy – I think that we got off on the wrong foot.
Calling someone a ‘Cretin’ ? that cut me to the quick.
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