Date: 17th April 2011 at 3:00am
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This may seem a little late but I feel it is always best to give yourself proper time to reflect on a result rather than fly straight in and say something foolish in the heat of the moment (hence you hear a ton of idiots on shows like 606 immediately after games).

Manchester United’s loss to Man City was bad, there is no sugar coating this. Before the game we wrote about this being a game and the fact that it was a Manchester derby is just an aside. I still agree with this, losing to City is bad but losing out on a chance to win a trophy is what bothers me more. I see a lot of people saying it is a useless cup and nobody cares about it but I disagree.

Yes the FA Cup was the least important of the 3 we were competing for at the start of play yesterday but that is scant consolation for the way the game turned out and is a poor excuse to cover this up.

The game itself was a strange one, we only played for about 20/30 minutes of the 90 and were duly beaten by a team who it appeared wanted it more. There are various reasons that could be cited as to why we didn’t perform for large spells; fatigue, complacency, wrong tactics etc I have heard a ton of them and each point has it’s merits as well as faults.

Notable observations from the game:

The Blame Game

A sad but frequent occurrence amongst football fans, not just ours, is the need to blame someone when things go wrong. Today’s main culprits are

1. Dimitar Berbatov – guilty of two misses early on that would have definitely made the tie easier had he converted, didn’t work as a lone striker

2. Michael Carrick – bad Carrick is back after his misplaced pass lead to City’s winner

3. Paul Scholes – after going 1-0 down his moment of madness made our task just that bit harder as he was red carded for a studs up challenge on Zabaleta

To be fair you can blame any of these or what ever else you want to but it doesn’t change the fact we played how we did. We were just as poor before Scholes was sent off, it’s accepted by most that he can’t influence the game as much as he usually does in a two man midfield as he doesn’t have the legs for it so why was he kept on when Valencia went off? Did you think of that? Or if you want to blame Carrick, why not blame VDS for the poor goal kick that initially put us under pressure?

There is nothing wrong with pointing out when someone has messed up but trying to solely attribute our defeat to either one of these players is poor form and not something I expect from us especially concerning Scholes!

Patrice Evra

Although offering a lot going forward, defensively his game was lacking. I can specifically remember him getting skinned badly by Johnson and Wright-Phillips (for shame!) and there may have been more occasions that I have forgotten.

Evra hasn’t looked himself for large parts of this season and perhaps he could do with a break. Considering the fact he played 51 games last season, had the calamity in South Africa, pretty much no pre season and has now played 40 plus this season it is understandable that he is feeling run down.

Evra was one of our better players last term, I remember Denis Irwin declaring that he was unfortunate that Rooney was in such good form or he would be a cert for club player of the year, so his dip this year is pretty shocking to see even if it is understandable.

Wayne Rooney & Carlos Tevez

Pretty sure it’s been said on here that banning Rooney for 2 games was a nonsense and today highlights that. I was firmly in the camp that believed City would miss Tevez more than we would miss Rooney but today slightly reminded me of that game against Blackburn after Rooney got injured against Bayern last term when Berbatov was up top alone. ITV didn’t help by constantly showing his expressions and gestures with our every passing chance, teasing us with what may have been!

As I said I believed that City would miss Tevez more than we would miss Rooney. I now feel like a fool for allowing myself to be lulled into a false sense of security in Tevez’s absence, I’m probably not alone but it was foolish to believe that City would just collapse in a game of this magnitude because of his absence.

Speaking of Rooney and Tevez leads me onto my final point…

Mario Balotelli

An extremely deplorably man (doesn’t seem out of place at City then!) who doesn’t seem to be getting any more mature.

The rumours will continue to circulate about what exactly he did to draw the ire of Anderson, Rio Ferdinand and the usually calm Edwin van der Sarr but even without that information the end of the game tells me all I need to know about him.

Prior to Man City signing him I wrote that I wouldn’t mind him here. Bullet dodged. The guy has shown himself to be a cretin at various points in his brief spell at Man City and today was no different. Mancini don’t seem to be helping by allowing him to behave how he does either.

Dwelling on the result won’t help instead we look forward to Tuesday’s game against Newcastle. There are lessons to be learned from the game and it also highlights how fortunate we were to do the treble in 1999 and how remarkable an achievement it is.

Our task now is to pick ourselves up and ensure we do not suffer from a hangover as Newcastle will be a tough game. Even if  that lot from down the road make our path to the title a little clearer by getting something from Arsenal, we still have to sort ourselves out as we have much to play for.


22 responses to “A couple of thoughts on the game with Man City”

  1. Dave says:


    Whilst I do not agree with all the content being a blue. I commend you on a refreshingly balanced on well constructed article.

    You objectively appraised what I was as a game withe eveything you might see in the modern game. The subjective consideration, particularly of Ballo, is down to opinion.

    However, the key and pleasing piece for me was that City showed they wanted it more. I characteristic shamefully lacking when I visited Anfield on Monday. There lies the appeal. How does a team appear not to want it more?

    Carrick, Scholes and Berbatov are all world class players. However, the intrigue is developed from control of technique at any particular point in the game. Ferguson has demonstrated the hard work ethic pays dividends. Chance, execution and emotion take over in the 90 + 5!.

    We had our day to day. utd’s benchmark is consistency. The melle at the end was young and not so young boys throwing handbags.

    Thanks for a refreshingly objective account.

    • Chudi says:

      Thanks for the reply Dave, I’ll hold my hands up and say that without hesitation. You did want it more and if there is one thing I personally love is commitment and hunger, your players showed it yesterday and were duly rewarded, congrats.

  2. MUFC says:

    Im amused to see the reaction of the Citeh fans. Morons think that the sheik’s gold can buy them trophies. trophies have to be earned you faggots n the fact that u havent one a single one for 35 years just shows the kind of scum you are. Losers…

  3. karlomu says:

    Nice one dave ,at least your not getin carryed away in a cloud of euphoric hate like the other city fans posted here…city did seem to want it more especially after goin a goal ahead but i do think if berba took that second chance things would be alot different…the silver lining for me as a man u fan is the fact that hopefully it was clear for all to see the without giggs,rooney,scholes in the starting line up against the bigger teams in europe we are starved of creativity.nani,anderson will have their day but i just think carrick has made one too many mistakes in big games think back to munich last year and how he got the run around against barca,lapses in consentration which i don,t see him getin rid of we need athleticism and experience in or centre midfield to compete for trebles we don,t have it with the midfield we have right now…also i don,t blame scholes for getin sent off if i received two and three yard passes from my midfield partner everytime he had space and sometimes putin me under pressure i,d crack too,.

  4. Mannings says:

    Typical City fans, just won their biggest game for 30 years, yet the first thing they do is go on United websites to gloat. Small club, small mentality.

  5. Yosh says:

    such is a season. it was bound to happen.

  6. Dextersmart says:

    Mannings Says:
    Typical City fans, just won their biggest game for 30 years, yet the first thing they do is go on United websites to gloat. Small club, small mentality.


    That game was the turning point of Manchester City. Our light blue colour did not have that threatening factor until this derby game. The next time that the derby will come around, this game will run in the mind of our players. And we will say, we were better on that day and we can see fear in their eyes.

    Unlike the previous era, we are building a team. Which is far from its peak. Are you (Red Demons) getting better? Because we are.


  7. clive says:

    Eh? Fear in their eyes? Red demons? Lay off the crack you bitter. You havent even got any fans, your grounds always empty. Youll lose to stoke and youll be back too booooing your team, slagging off your players and blaming your manager. Your football is so boring it has no excitement and is dreadful to watch. Just because youve got some arab oil money all of a sudden doesnt change your identity as bitter little berties, now you have a team full of mercenaries it shows. When you win 19 league titles and 3 european cups without a sugar daddy, then your in our league, until then, fuck off back to stockport.

  8. jonathan says:

    City wanted it more 2nd half, but as I said in an earlier post, our team selection played into City’s hands.

    It was always going to be a Toure, Barry, Dejong CM, and we shouldn’t have crowded our midfield with 3 central midfielders as well in Scholes, Carrick and Park. We should’ve played 4-4-2 with Hernandez instead of Park. If we still insisted on 4-5-1 than it should’ve been Ando over Park, as Park does not have the required ball control to utilize his speed in the congested central area of the pitch. In his brief spell into the game, I think Ando proved me right and left me thinking what if.

    All that said, I don’t want to play the blame game too much. There’s bigger fish to fry and let’s move on.

  9. happy scouser says:

    HAHA “bigger fish to fry”? SOUR GRAPING at its finest!

    these united fans from singapore/korea/zimbabwe/australia/anywhere-except-manchester are just fly-by-night fans. what a disgrace.

    Sore losers!


    • Chudi says:

      Thanks for the click pal just powering the site for more Scouse bashing next season!

      #19 here we come!

      I’d rather walk alone

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